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Missio Dei Catholic's avatar

“However, we still live in a fallen world.”

And this is what makes reading Rohr so frustrating (and slow because I need to take breaks from his nonsense) because he mocks the idea of the fall and the need for Jesus’ sacrifice to save us.

He writes, “For the first two thousand years of Christianity, we framed our faith in terms of a problem and a threat.” (Rohr, 18)

No; Rohr, that is the state of the fallen world.

Our faith, which Jenny describes here, is one that Christians frame with hope.

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Kathleen Daley's avatar

I agree with both David and Jenny. I think it is highly possible we are in the end times. I have been studying history since a teen. I am now 75. History is a passion of mine.There has never been an era of time quite like this one in which all prophecies and predictions are coming together. Though Jesus says and I accept that we will not know the exact day or hour. He does promise red flags and urges us to be aware of them. Peter tells us that a thousands years are as 1day to God. The Church rightly teaches that though we don't know the exact date of the end times, a term I dislike because its misleading,, as The end times are really the beginning or new times. Anyway the Church teaches that regardless of when 'the end times' come, or own personal end/beginning times can happen at any moment in our lives, so be ready. That brings me to the main point here. As Jenny says our focus should not be on governments, new laws, new political anything. Our focus should be on changing hearts (starting with our own, of course). Paul, who if you read carefully loved the Law of God, warned us that it is a teaching tool with no power to change us or the world. Our hearts must change which is accomplished in and through Christ Jesus. Unite and renew our hearts in the Heart of Christ! Then we are ready for which ever 'end/new time' comes to us first!

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