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From St. Augustine, a rather long quote, please forgive me. Points of emphasis bracketed ***like so***.

"Let us love our Lord God, let us love His Church: Him as a Father, Her as a Mother: Him as a Lord, Her as His Handmaid, as we are ourselves the Handmaid’s sons. But this marriage is held together by a bond of great love: no man offends the one, and wins favour of the other. Let no man say, I go indeed to the idols, I consult possessed ones and fortune-tellers: yet I abandon not God’s Church; I am a Catholic. While you hold to your Mother, you have offended your Father. Another says, Far be it from me; I consult no sorcerer, I seek out no possessed one, I never ask advice by sacrilegious divination, I go not to worship idols, I bow not before stones; though I am in the party of Donatus. ***What does it profit you not to have offended your Father, if he avenges your offended Mother?*** What does it serve you, if you acknowledge the Lord, honour God, preach His name, acknowledge His Son, confess that He sits by His right hand; while you blaspheme His Church? Does not the analogy of human marriages convince you? Suppose you have some patron, whom you court every day, whose threshold you wear with your visits, whom you daily not only salute, but even worship, to whom you pay the most loyal courtesy; ***if you utter one calumny against his wife, could you re-enter his house?*** Hold then, most beloved, hold all with one mind to God the Father, and the Church our Mother. Celebrate with temperance the birthdays of the Saints, that we may imitate those who have gone before us, and that they who pray for you may rejoice over you; that the blessing of the Lord may abide on you for evermore. Amen and Amen."

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Kathleen Daley's avatar

I was Not speaking, from the beginning, about dogmatic and doctrinal statements. I believe my words were to the effect that we do not have to adhere to every word or action from a pope. I think I said to every word from his mouth or something similar, meaning homilies, reflections, press questions, comments on global warming, his comments against on bringing down Roe vs Wade and other moral issues etc. However, I stand by my comment that we can disagree with these. And I was only asking for clarification, as many Catholics and definitely non-Catholics think that every time he speaks we must blindly believe and obey. They think that if a pope says the sky is green and the grass is blue, Catholics must believe it. Francis has often said things that actually contradict past popes, the Magisterium and the Bible which truthfully has shocked me!!!!

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