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Kathleen Daley's avatar

I think that as you two , Phillip, and David, continue dialogue together and listen to one another, you will both find you are saying the same thing in different words. I agree with both of you. I have long been a traditional Catholic Christian. I am 75. I have had a personal relationship with Jesus, the Christ, since my teens. I have read the Bible daily since my teens. I have attened daily Mass as often as possible, and prayed daily at least 3 times a day since my teens. Yet, until I openly by my free will embraced the Holy Spirit and was baptized in the Spirit, my faith had not become alive. My personal intimate love for and hope in and my total surrender to Our Lord was birthed in me by the coming of the Holy Spirit upon me. I knew and believed before that in baptism and confirmation , it takes both, I have been filled with the Holy Spirit. However, I passively received. When I actively embraced and surrendered to the Holy Spirit, I came alive, because thte Holy Spirit was now completely free to take possession of me. I think this is what David is saying. Catholics are not taught to actively with both heart and mind to open up and let the Spirit in. We believe the sacraments place the Spirit within us, and they do. But we must openly reach out and welcome the Holy Spirit in. In other words we can't be passive. We have a part to play too.

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David Fogarty's avatar

As you have said,brother!

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