It seems to me that a big problem with post Vatican II ecumenism is that its goal is to determine the least common denominator, but to what end? Okay, we agree on this point. Now what? Usually, it’s either nothing or worse, a tacit approval of Protestant heresy.
The Catholic Church alone possesses the fullness of Truth. Apart from her there is no salvation. True ecumenism, one that seeks the salvation of souls, would do everything to bring Protestants into the Truth, to save their souls. In the end nothing else matters. But Modernism and pluralism have infiltrated the very heart of the Church. And so, like so much else, today’s ecumenism is a lie that leads only to the loss of millions of souls.
All forms of Protestantism are heresy. Love demands we do everything in our power to lead them to Truth.
It is hard to be clear on such a subject, but I feel it is necessary to be as clear as possible on what we mean. If I understand your comment correctly your logic is: The Post-Second Vatican Council's Ecumenical efforts of the Church seek common ground with alternative takes on Christianity. Other views are heresy. Therefore, all ecumenical efforts do in fact compromise on truth/lead people into heresy. However, if we are to be effective at all, we must listen when we engage others in our perspective. Otherwise, the "everything in our power" really isn't being applied. This doesn't mean resolving disagreements by giving up the ground we shouldn't. It does mean that we need to find exactly what we disagree on and why, understand their confusion and love them, and respond calmly and ask the Holy Spirit to remind us we are not the Savior nor the Love of Souls. We should know our stuff well enough also to understand what ground we do share in common. This is necessary because the Church grows not during the crusades or by street-corner-yelling, but rather by showing fraternal love. The problem you bring up is the fact people really don't know their faith, they conflate love with things that are not love and truth with things that are apparently true. This is where the other extreme brings detriment. The liberal vs conservative interpretation of Catholicism is largely to blame because in each the reality of the faith is distorted, the Church is just as much a school of truth as it is a hospital for the lost and broken. Love is not love if it does not account for both objective and subjective goods of the other because failure in one will undermine the other. Even though heresy does not have the fullness of truth, people believe it because of a modicum of truth it contains and it is the truth to which we must cling if we are to guide folks out of partial/analogical truths, we must be carefully not to forget the rest of the truth too.
It seems to me that a big problem with post Vatican II ecumenism is that its goal is to determine the least common denominator, but to what end? Okay, we agree on this point. Now what? Usually, it’s either nothing or worse, a tacit approval of Protestant heresy.
The Catholic Church alone possesses the fullness of Truth. Apart from her there is no salvation. True ecumenism, one that seeks the salvation of souls, would do everything to bring Protestants into the Truth, to save their souls. In the end nothing else matters. But Modernism and pluralism have infiltrated the very heart of the Church. And so, like so much else, today’s ecumenism is a lie that leads only to the loss of millions of souls.
All forms of Protestantism are heresy. Love demands we do everything in our power to lead them to Truth.
It is hard to be clear on such a subject, but I feel it is necessary to be as clear as possible on what we mean. If I understand your comment correctly your logic is: The Post-Second Vatican Council's Ecumenical efforts of the Church seek common ground with alternative takes on Christianity. Other views are heresy. Therefore, all ecumenical efforts do in fact compromise on truth/lead people into heresy. However, if we are to be effective at all, we must listen when we engage others in our perspective. Otherwise, the "everything in our power" really isn't being applied. This doesn't mean resolving disagreements by giving up the ground we shouldn't. It does mean that we need to find exactly what we disagree on and why, understand their confusion and love them, and respond calmly and ask the Holy Spirit to remind us we are not the Savior nor the Love of Souls. We should know our stuff well enough also to understand what ground we do share in common. This is necessary because the Church grows not during the crusades or by street-corner-yelling, but rather by showing fraternal love. The problem you bring up is the fact people really don't know their faith, they conflate love with things that are not love and truth with things that are apparently true. This is where the other extreme brings detriment. The liberal vs conservative interpretation of Catholicism is largely to blame because in each the reality of the faith is distorted, the Church is just as much a school of truth as it is a hospital for the lost and broken. Love is not love if it does not account for both objective and subjective goods of the other because failure in one will undermine the other. Even though heresy does not have the fullness of truth, people believe it because of a modicum of truth it contains and it is the truth to which we must cling if we are to guide folks out of partial/analogical truths, we must be carefully not to forget the rest of the truth too.