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Judson Carroll's avatar

Here is a segment from one I am writing for next year - I think you will enjooy it:

In all honesty, even though I was raised Protestant, I was shocked by the total commitment to the heresy of “once saved always saved” that I encountered when I attended a Southern Baptist university. I brought up such points as that Jesus told several parables such as the seed that was scattered, explaining that some heard and believed but were lost because of evil influence or the cares of the world, or about the man from whom a demon was cast out but the demon came back with others and ended up in a worse state, that Jesus said one must “endure to the end” to be saved, and that Saint Paul said he was still working out his salvation and hoped to “finish the race.” The answer was simply that their doctrine states that one is saved “by faith alone” and salvation cannot be lost. I asked such questions as, “What if someone who believes turns from Christian teaching and becomes a murderer or adulterer? Little did I know at the time, that Martin Luther had written, “No sin will separate us from the Lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day.” These heresies are foundational to Protestantism.

So, I asked the obvious question, “What if one loses faith and renounces Christ after having once believed and confessed Him as God?” They answered that the person would still be saved.... if their faith had been real in the first place. But, turning away from God meant they probably never really had faith. “How do you know?” I asked. They answered, “By their fruits you will know them.” So, I pointed out that by their reasoning, no one ever really knows if he is saved, because if he faltered at the end of his life, he would have no way of knowing that he had ever been saved in the first place. “No,” they told me, “We have blessed assurance that we will be saved.” This illogical, circular reasoning went on for months as I tried to wrap my mind around something that truly doesn't make sense..... you are saved unless you are not, and you can't really know but you believe with absolute certainty that you are saved and sin doesn't matter... unless it does.

Kathleen's avatar

Spot on! Thank you for this reflection!

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