The church is a hypocritical, patriarchal organization.
I thought we were supposed to be following the example and teachings of Christ. How have so many Catholics come to embrace a deviant monster like Trump?
This movie shows truth. In every group of humans there are a few very good, a few bad and most in the middle just trying the best they can to do the right thing. Church hierarchy is no different and the honest portrayal is desperately needed.
Anyone who has experienced the trauma of rape, whether in an institution or at home, is in deep need of our prayers and support. As Catholics, our beliefs are grounded in truth rather than personal preferences or societal trends. Many of our priests (though certainly not all) align more with the Church’s teachings and policies than individual personalities or public opinion. For instance, the Church teaches that marriage is a sacred union between a man and a woman and that abortion is a grave evil—both of which stand in stark contrast to ideologies often promoted by left-leaning movements in America. While it's true that leaders—whether priests, doctors, or politicians—can fail us at times, we are called to pray for their conversion and guidance, trusting in God's grace to bring healing and renewal.
This was the take from Bishop Barron on the movie that he shared via X:
“Just saw “Conclave.” If you are interested in a film about the Catholic Church that could have been written by the editorial board of the New York Times, this is your movie. The hierarchy of the Church is a hotbed of ambition, corruption and desperate egotism, Conservatives are xenophobic extremists and the liberals are self-important schemers. None can escape this irredeemable situation. The only way forward is the embrace of the progressive buzz words of diversity, inclusion, indifference to doctrine, and the ultimate solution is a virtue signaling Cardinal who takes the Papal name of Innocent and who is a biological female. Since it checks practically every woke box, I’m sure it will win a boatload of awards, but my advice is to run away from it as fast as you can.”
I saw it last night and from what I gathered the man who was elected was a hermaphadite. He had both female and male organs. Isn’t that what Angels are supposed to be?No sex or both?
I find it so sad, especially after writing this article, how many Catholics simply do not embrace the truth of what the Church actually teaches. Too many Catholics are Catholics in name only. Catholicism is all or nothing. I'm tired of Cafeteria Catholics. It's so disheartening.
It's a well-done and thoughtful movie. Like any religious organization, the Catholic church changes and evolves over time — priests were originally allowed to marry, and now they're not. What is considered correct or right at any given moment is not a permanent state. The Catholic church is not what it once was, and it won't be the same in the future, either. If it doesn't accept change it will continue to lose followers.
An all-male priesthood is Divine Revelation, it CANNOT change. This is NOT an opinion, it is the truth. The Church doesn't have the authority to change it. You can disagree with it, but it's still the truth.
I believe the previous comment referenced priests being allowed to marry.
That being said you can’t prove anything is “divine revelation”. Everything is interpretation and if the interpretation doesn’t exist for the good of all humanity and for the purpose of teaching love and forgiveness it’s nothing. The church should be more concerned with following Christ’s example than in preserving domination of one gender in its hierarchy.
There’s no disrespect shown to God at all and the individuals portrayed are humans….not divine. They are only as holy as they are moral and that’s true for all humans.
I have not watched a Hollywood movie in a theatre for several years, it looks like it will be a few more years before I will be seeing another one. Thank you for your report on this disgusting movie.
True, but why waste time on yet another anti-Catholic film that has a clear agenda? The director made it clear in his interview that there was an agenda, and it wasn't in favor of the Catholic Church.
Thank you for this review. Media is a powerful tool in influencing people. May we all be guided as we live amidst a world that seems to grow more secular each day.
Movies that contribute to distorting the truth of the Church of Jesus Christ and our Catholic Faith should never be supported. It is the work of evil and contributes nothing but corruption.
But the church and its clergy playing politics constantly and siding with despicable political
Candidates and their own current in fighting, with clergy constantly bashing the current pope and making their opinions anout not liking the current pope vocal in the media, oh and how could we forget priests molesting and raping kids is not Corrupt or worth talking about and examining and being critical Of
This article is another scare tactic that Catholic Church uses in order to deflect from the accuracy of the movie. The Vatican is full of power-struggles and politics so to say that the movie misrepresents the process, because of the political gain people receive during this process. The Catholic Church is far from perfect, especially with mass sexual abuse and the cover up by priest, bishops, archbishops, cardinals, and popes and the faltering of Catholic's trust in Rome. I am not condemning this article. Critical thinking is important. That is why I wanted to challenge this article as a Christian. I have witnessed too many times where the Church has used fear and lies in order to frighten people into avoiding nearly anything. I pray that the Catholic Church heals and the darkness in the Vatican is eradicated and good clergy emerge from this.
I think at this point we should all be a little suspicious of Hollywood movies, and agendas. Thanks for writing about this "woke" blasphemous film.
Is it more blasphemous than priests raping kids? Or priests bishops politically aligning with bigots, and sexual assaulters?
I agree.
The church is a hypocritical, patriarchal organization.
I thought we were supposed to be following the example and teachings of Christ. How have so many Catholics come to embrace a deviant monster like Trump?
This movie shows truth. In every group of humans there are a few very good, a few bad and most in the middle just trying the best they can to do the right thing. Church hierarchy is no different and the honest portrayal is desperately needed.
Anyone who has experienced the trauma of rape, whether in an institution or at home, is in deep need of our prayers and support. As Catholics, our beliefs are grounded in truth rather than personal preferences or societal trends. Many of our priests (though certainly not all) align more with the Church’s teachings and policies than individual personalities or public opinion. For instance, the Church teaches that marriage is a sacred union between a man and a woman and that abortion is a grave evil—both of which stand in stark contrast to ideologies often promoted by left-leaning movements in America. While it's true that leaders—whether priests, doctors, or politicians—can fail us at times, we are called to pray for their conversion and guidance, trusting in God's grace to bring healing and renewal.
TERRIBLE movie
Great and timely review. Thanks.
This was the take from Bishop Barron on the movie that he shared via X:
“Just saw “Conclave.” If you are interested in a film about the Catholic Church that could have been written by the editorial board of the New York Times, this is your movie. The hierarchy of the Church is a hotbed of ambition, corruption and desperate egotism, Conservatives are xenophobic extremists and the liberals are self-important schemers. None can escape this irredeemable situation. The only way forward is the embrace of the progressive buzz words of diversity, inclusion, indifference to doctrine, and the ultimate solution is a virtue signaling Cardinal who takes the Papal name of Innocent and who is a biological female. Since it checks practically every woke box, I’m sure it will win a boatload of awards, but my advice is to run away from it as fast as you can.”
What is Bishop Barron’s take on kids getting raped by priests
Is he as Vocal about that?
I saw it last night and from what I gathered the man who was elected was a hermaphadite. He had both female and male organs. Isn’t that what Angels are supposed to be?No sex or both?
I find it so sad, especially after writing this article, how many Catholics simply do not embrace the truth of what the Church actually teaches. Too many Catholics are Catholics in name only. Catholicism is all or nothing. I'm tired of Cafeteria Catholics. It's so disheartening.
So Christina, what does it teach?
I believe most of the values Pope Francis embraces are truly Christian yet so many Catholics don’t like him. Why is that?
It's a well-done and thoughtful movie. Like any religious organization, the Catholic church changes and evolves over time — priests were originally allowed to marry, and now they're not. What is considered correct or right at any given moment is not a permanent state. The Catholic church is not what it once was, and it won't be the same in the future, either. If it doesn't accept change it will continue to lose followers.
An all-male priesthood is Divine Revelation, it CANNOT change. This is NOT an opinion, it is the truth. The Church doesn't have the authority to change it. You can disagree with it, but it's still the truth.
I believe the previous comment referenced priests being allowed to marry.
That being said you can’t prove anything is “divine revelation”. Everything is interpretation and if the interpretation doesn’t exist for the good of all humanity and for the purpose of teaching love and forgiveness it’s nothing. The church should be more concerned with following Christ’s example than in preserving domination of one gender in its hierarchy.
Divine revelation? From a man?
Lol
That is hilarious and preposterous
The catholic church chooses to be male dominant and sexist.
There is nothing divine about oppression and bigotry not raping kids.
Thank you for this article! My husband and I will not be going to see it! +JMJ+
I am not even a Catholic and I regret seeing this film!
Why?
It's a blasphemous movie
There’s no disrespect shown to God at all and the individuals portrayed are humans….not divine. They are only as holy as they are moral and that’s true for all humans.
I have not watched a Hollywood movie in a theatre for several years, it looks like it will be a few more years before I will be seeing another one. Thank you for your report on this disgusting movie.
I think one should see it though to have an informed opinion. The public and especially Catholics can discern the truth.
True, but why waste time on yet another anti-Catholic film that has a clear agenda? The director made it clear in his interview that there was an agenda, and it wasn't in favor of the Catholic Church.
Perhaps if the church wasnt so political and bigoted and raping kids
Maybe people wouldnt have negative opinions about the hcurch. Not “an agenda”
Just seeing it for what it has been for a long time
Sinful and allowing horrible sinful crimes against children amd still happening
Google the words
“Priest arrested “
there are priests arrested for crimes practically each day
I didn’t see it as anti catholic at all
I saw this movie today and was 100% disgusted. Shame on Hollywood.
There was nothing disgusting about this movie.
You find it disgusting that a group of humans struggle with an important decision?
How strange.
How dare hollywood make such a movie
I loved the movie. Every Catholic should see it.
Thank you for this review. Media is a powerful tool in influencing people. May we all be guided as we live amidst a world that seems to grow more secular each day.
I am not even a Catholic and I found the movie offensive. I should have never went to see it.
Caroline Quadrino
Thank you for defending Catholic Doctrine!
Movies that contribute to distorting the truth of the Church of Jesus Christ and our Catholic Faith should never be supported. It is the work of evil and contributes nothing but corruption.
But the church and its clergy playing politics constantly and siding with despicable political
Candidates and their own current in fighting, with clergy constantly bashing the current pope and making their opinions anout not liking the current pope vocal in the media, oh and how could we forget priests molesting and raping kids is not Corrupt or worth talking about and examining and being critical Of
Ha! sure right
You’re absolutely correct.
So you voted for Trump also :))))
I thought it was a great movie and I wasn’t disappointed. And yes I am Catholic.
This article is another scare tactic that Catholic Church uses in order to deflect from the accuracy of the movie. The Vatican is full of power-struggles and politics so to say that the movie misrepresents the process, because of the political gain people receive during this process. The Catholic Church is far from perfect, especially with mass sexual abuse and the cover up by priest, bishops, archbishops, cardinals, and popes and the faltering of Catholic's trust in Rome. I am not condemning this article. Critical thinking is important. That is why I wanted to challenge this article as a Christian. I have witnessed too many times where the Church has used fear and lies in order to frighten people into avoiding nearly anything. I pray that the Catholic Church heals and the darkness in the Vatican is eradicated and good clergy emerge from this.
As if the church and its clergy doesnt have political influence and motives. Please. The catholic church has had many scandals and dramas from within.
There are priests who are still molesting and raping kids
And the church has clergy aligning with Donald
Trump.
What a joke