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Dave DuBay's avatar

One big reason I became an atheist in the 1990s is that I started reading Jesus Seminar books, not knowing what I was getting into. It took me a long time to realize that the “quest for the historical Jesus” is not about history but rather is an anti-Trinitarian endeavor. I wasted 25 years down that rabbit hole.

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Judson Carroll's avatar

Well done. I have had similar conversations with atheists and others. It is different for me because I was hired while in college as a writer and never had the chance to go back to school - too busy making a living after age 23 or so and paying my own way. I am self-educated, so I don't get a lot of respect from academics when it comes to "scholarly" stuff. Conversely, I grew up with a lot of Jewish folks and I usually get along very well with Jews, religious or not. I also get along well with Muslims. So long as there is mutual respect. Honestly, I get along better with most Jews, who accept me as Catholic... and even some atheists, that many Protestants who refuse to operate with mutual respect. I had to chuckle though. I was reminded of the old Jackie Mason's (my favorite comedian, next to Groucho Marx) line, "The one thing you never tell a Jew, is that is so Jewish.... You can mean it as the most heartfelt compliment, but you tell a Jewish girl she looks Jewish and so beautiful and she replies, 'Why would you say that? That is so mean!'" I don't get it. I dated two Jewish women with hopes of long-term. One was a gorgeous red head from CA, the other a petite little blonde from Tel Aviv (yes, actually blonde with blue eyes). The Israeli was more proudly Jewish, but neither were touchy about cultural and religious differences. Regardless, it just brought Jackie Mason to mind, and I LOVED Jackie!

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